Past July 4th polls, past month visits (+Philly)

Politico David Kuhn lists the last Gallup polls taken around this period of time, 4 months prior to the election. With a poll ending July 2nd, Obama leads McCain 47 to 43 currently; here's the list:

2004: Kerry 46 percent - Bush 44 percent  (Dates 6/21-6/23)

2000: Bush 45 percent - Gore 36 percent  (Dates 6/23-6/25)

1996: Clinton 51 percent - Dole 35 percent (Dates 6/27-6/30)

1992: Bush 32 percent - Clinton 31 percent - Perot 28 percent (Dates 7/9-7/10)

1988: Dukakis 47 percent - Bush 41 percent (Dates 7/8-7/10)

1984: Reagan 50 percent - Mondale 40 percent  (Dates 6/29-7/02)

1980: Reagan 40 percent - Carter 38 percent (Date 6/24)

1976: Carter 49 percent - Ford 28 percent (Date 6/22)

Despite the yawning gap, Gerald Ford almost pulled off the come-from-behind win. Gallup called it "the greatest comeback in the history of public-opinion polling." But Ford never escaped his pardon of Nixon, while Jimmy Carter repeatedly pledged, "I'll never lie," enough to give him the 2 percentage point win.

1972: Nixon 42 percent - McGovern 31 percent - Wallace 19 percent (Date 6/13)

1968: Humphrey 34 percent - Nixon 32 percent - Wallace 17 percent (Dates 6/26-7/01)

1964: Johnson 74 percent - Goldwater 19 percent (Dates 6/25 - 6/30)

1960: Kennedy 46 percent - Nixon 41 percent (Date 6/28)

Another Gallup poll, in mid-July, had John F. Kennedy looking even stronger, ahead by some 18 points. But Richard Nixon roared back and by mid-October, George Gallup refused to predict a winner: It was that close. Kennedy did indeed win, but by a mere .2 percent.

1956: Eisenhower 58 percent - Stevenson 36 percent (Date 7/10)

1952: Eisenhower 56 percent - Stevenson 34 percent  (Date 7/10)

1948: Truman 40 percent - Dewey 39 percent (Date 7/14)

Another Gallup poll around the same time had Harry Truman up by three points. In an election year noted for its polling mistakes, Gallup later had Thomas Dewey at 49.5 percent the day before the election. But against all odds, Truman won by nearly five percentage points, 49.6 percent to Dewey's 45.1 percent.

Where does the Obama - McCain contest match-up? If I had to go with choosing corollary elections from the above, I'd go with '76, '60, and '49 (for which I've left in Kuhn's dshort descriptions). In terms of the candidate dynamics of the race, I'd choose'60, in that its a ground-breaking historical contest that's going to be very close; '76 in terms of the headwind that the Republican nominee faces; and '48 in that we could be totally shocked with another "Dewey wins" poll-buster election.

I was looking through the WaPost candidate tracker over the last month, since the GE started on June 3rd, here's the days in the 'battleground' states that each candidate has visited:

Obama:
2 visits: MO, OH, MI, NH
1 visit: CO, ND, MT, MN, NV, NM, FL, WI, VA, PA

McCain:
3 visits: FL, PA
2 visits: LA, VA, OH
1 visit: NH, CT, NJ, MO, MN, NV

What's it tell us?

Obama is trying to broaden the map and isn't too worried about defending blue states. Michigan and Pennsylvania are exceptions, as is New Hampshire, Minnesota and Wisconsin, but less so. Other than those 7 days, it was 11 days campaigning in '04 red states, especially Missouri and Ohio, but also exotic Dem Pres. states like ND and MT.

McCain is a bit more on the defense, he's trying to lock down Florida early, and build a firewall in the the states of Virginia and Ohio. He's spent 11 days in '04 red states, and just 7 days in '04 blue states, mostly in Pennsylvania.

Speaking of Pennsylvania, the spur-of-the-moment mini-vacation is in the extended entry.

I've been up in Philadelphia for the holiday, staying at Loews, a terrific kid-friendly hotel downtown, we did the double-decker bus, Rocky steps and Ben Franklin trips, a Mets-Phillies ballgame this afternoon with some rightfield bleacher seats, fireworks both nights-- a great city for chasing around a 3 and 8 year-old while we try to hangout and have fun.

I've still got an old Treo for a few more days, so the photos are terrible, but here's the original Speaker of the House seat in Philly:

And here's Rocky:

OK, here's huffer and puffer (not really) about halfway up the steps humming in the video:

And have you been to the Eastern State penitentiary? That was a blast touring, we went on the "Escape" tour, which explores the 100 foot tunnel that was made to get out of jail free. The video I took of the baseball field is gawd-awful-- I'm due a new phone.

I was going to get a new Apple iphone, but think I'll go with the Instinct instead, just to stay with Sprint and away from Verizon. I lived through that disaster already once, and that's enough.


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Couple of thoughts, Jerome (none / 0)

1.  Glad you're enjoying Philly.  It's one of my favorite places that I've visited.  I don't know if you're still up there, but I'd recommend checking out the Constitution Center, also, as it's an amazing tour.

Independence Hall is amazing to see and soak up, as is the city as a whole.  Just do NOT go to the Liberty Bell if you haven't already.  I can save you the trip:  It's a bell.  A big, broken bell, but still just a damned bell.

2.  iPhone is AT&T, not Verizon.  That said, as a former Treo owner, I agree - run, don't walk, to a better PDA.


UNITY!
by The Great Gatsby on Sun Jul 06, 2008 at 06:16:45 AM EST

Re: (+Philly) (none / 0)

I'm a Philly native now living in western Kansas.
People who live in PA tend to take the beauty of the state for granted- hope you can get out of the city for a little while and maybe see some of the countryside.
I can't believe that stupid statue of Rocky Balboa is still in front of the Art Museum- I remember when Stallone had it commissioned and wanted to put it at the top of the museum steps- people were horrified (that thing at the Philadelphia Art Museum??). Stallone got very huffy about it, so they compromised and put it down at the bottom of the steps, conveniently out of most pictures of the front of the musuem.
One caveat- avoid the beaches, the traffic is horrendous this time of year!
by skohayes on Sun Jul 06, 2008 at 07:58:05 AM EST

Yes, but you can still enjoy... (2.00 / 2)

...the cool places down in the Front Street area...overlooking the Delaware...great for Sunday brunch...also great for Sundays and brunching is the Rittenhouse Square area....

If you wanted to have an incredible afternoon with the kids--and as parents you'll enjoy it immensely too--there's Longwood Gardens (old DuPont estate)...which is nothing short of phenomenal...about 20-30 minutes south of town and worth every minute of the drive...

(I was born and raised in the Philadelphia-Trenton area. Entire family, except for me, is still there.)


by bobswern on Sun Jul 06, 2008 at 09:20:24 AM EST

Re: Yes, but you can still enjoy... (2.00 / 1)

Oh, Longwood Gardens is one of my favorite places to visit when I'm home!
My family, including me, has scattered to the 4 winds. Only my brother still lives in the area (north "Joisey"). Fortunately, we still have a place in Ocean City, so we all try to meet there at least once a year for a family together.

by skohayes on Sun Jul 06, 2008 at 11:24:17 AM EST
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And, all Dems should pay... (none / 0)

...particular attention to the Kerry nos. from '04!

This is a great diary, by the way...certainly important for any Dems that think an Obama victory is a lock in November, too!

Anything can happen, as is made self-evident by historical review of where things stood around this time in elections past.


by bobswern on Sun Jul 06, 2008 at 09:23:38 AM EST

Kerry would've beaten Bush (none / 0)

if his numbers had not gone down after the swiftboat ads and he wasn't running against an incumbent who, despite plummeting poll numbers, was still fairly popular and trusted. Kerry could've carried Ohio, Iowa, New Mexico and possibly Colorado. He would've won the popular vote VERY narrowly, but won the EV pretty big, a la JFK. That's how I see Obama winning.


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Sun Jul 06, 2008 at 01:03:58 PM EST
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Re: Kerry would've beaten Bush (none / 0)

Maybe... but Bush led in polling most of the GE.  THere was an exception in June and July (or July and August) around the Abu Grabi prison scandal... It was always going to be close though.


http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!
by yitbos96bb on Sun Jul 06, 2008 at 01:49:36 PM EST
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Worth repeating (none / 0)

Nothing is yet in the bag. Much hard work is still to be done but nothing is wrong with being confident of victory. I also wonder if in some of these cases there might have been other polling showing different numbers. Particularly in 2004 the totality of polling was never anyway near as uniform as the apparent 5 point lead held by Obama today. I think the highest RCP average Kerry lead was 2 points or something like that.


by conspiracy on Sun Jul 06, 2008 at 01:48:55 PM EST
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charlie crist got married... (none / 0)

and many politicos in florida think he wouldn't have if he didn't "need to"...


"Anyone who voted for me or caucused for me has so much more in common with Senator Obama than Senator McCain." -- Hillary Clinton
by bored now on Sun Jul 06, 2008 at 10:02:11 AM EST

Re: charlie crist got married... (none / 0)

See Sullivan's post today about it--Crist needs a beard if he wants to be VP.


What is The October Protocol?
by Koan on Mon Jul 07, 2008 at 01:14:46 PM EST
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North Carolina (none / 0)

Obama will make his second trip to North Carolina since June 3 on Monday.


by KickinIt on Sun Jul 06, 2008 at 11:02:45 AM EST

New Hampshire? (none / 0)

Are you counting Michelle Obama's visit to New Hampshire the day before the Hillary and Obama show?  I doubt Obama and Hillary would have gone to New Hampshire had it not had a town with an appropriate name, where they somehow coincedentally received the same number of votes.


by Blazers Edge on Sun Jul 06, 2008 at 11:23:22 AM EST

Re: New Hampshire? (none / 0)

If it turns out that Obama picked this location as the first place to showcase his VP then the unity and same number of votes won't be forgotten.

In that context its a classy thing to showcase Hillary as an equal within the context of the unity vote.

A Obama campaign that treats Hillary as a just slightly defeated but still roughly equal politically would have support from her followers who understand that whatever stature the VP has there is still only 1 active president.


by dtaylor2 on Sun Jul 06, 2008 at 02:11:01 PM EST
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Re: New Hampshire? (1.50 / 2)

Huh?

Why are you trying to read into the location where they had their event?  Since when did Obama treat Hillary as if she was inferior?

It appears that you are trying to subtly hold Obama hostage for your vote and I have news for you, it won't work.  The primaries are over, Obama is the nominee and he can pick whomever he wants for VP. If you and other Hillary supporters are holding out your vote based on who his VP pick is, then it just goes to show that you don't share Hillary's values.


by sweet potato pie on Sun Jul 06, 2008 at 03:25:43 PM EST
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Re: New Hampshire? (1.50 / 2)

Don't be hating on unity...


by dtaylor2 on Sun Jul 06, 2008 at 06:00:52 PM EST
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JFK _lost_ the popular vote to Nixon in 1960 (2.00 / 1)

Jerome, like most people, you report that he won the popular vote narrowly.  That's actually the Democratic vote, not the JFK vote.

I'm not blaming you for the error.  It's common.  But it's not a small matter.

I'm away from my books with the details, but you can look it up if you like.  Two southern states ran electors pledged to Dixiecrat Byrd, and those slates beat Nixon.  Mississippi and Alabama, if I remember correctly.  If you take those votes from JFK (because they were definitely not JFK votes), Nixon has more votes.

There was a brief flurry of attention to this in 2000, when Gore and Bush were thisclose.  But we've gone back to amnesia on it.


by DFLer on Sun Jul 06, 2008 at 07:17:34 PM EST


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