"Does Obama Have An Iraq Problem?" Umm, No

Unbelievable. Yesterday on Hardball, Andrea Mitchell led with an oh so provocative tease: "Does Obama have an Iraq problem?" Now, in fairness, the question she posed was based on a piece in The New Yorker by George Packer entitled "Obama's Iraq Problem" which opens with the following paragraph:

In February, 2007, when Barack Obama declared that he was running for President, violence in Iraq had reached apocalyptic levels, and he based his candidacy, in part, on a bold promise to begin a rapid withdrawal of American forces upon taking office. At the time, this pledge represented conventional thinking among Democrats and was guaranteed to play well with primary voters. But in the year and a half since then two improbable, though not unforeseeable, events have occurred: Obama has won the Democratic nomination, and Iraq, despite myriad crises, has begun to stabilize. With the general election four months away, Obama's rhetoric on the topic now seems outdated and out of touch, and the nominee-apparent may have a political problem concerning the very issue that did so much to bring him this far.

Who's the outdated and out of touch one, Mr. Packer? The truth is what Rasmussen has found over and over again, that Americans are rejecting McCain's frame of the war and embracing Obama's, in red states and blue states alike.

The question Rasmussen asks: "When it comes to the situation in Iraq, which is the more important goal for the next president to accomplish during his first term...winning the war or getting the troops home?" As you can see, the only place "Winning the war" wins the argument or is even close is in the reddest of red states or McCain's home state.

StateDate"Winning the war""Getting the troops home"
Connecticut6/303361
Massachusetts6/302464
Alabama6/265044
Georgia6/264549
Arizona6/254746
Kentucky6/254350
Texas6/254448
Tennessee6/244448
Mississippi6/244650
California6/233264
Colorado6/174053
Alaska6/164646
Arkansas6/123952
Virginia6/124153
Kansas6/114646
Minnesota6/113557
Iowa6/103950
Michigan6/93556
Missouri6/33856

So while Iraq may have dropped down the lists of voters' most pressing issues, judging by these results, if it were to rise again in people's minds, it may actually benefit Obama. But even if we accepted the CW that McCain benefits when the war is the top issue, Chris Cilizza breaks down the extent to which politically Obama so does not have an Iraq problem.

From yesterday's Hardball:

"This is essentially a win win for Obama. If the war continues to look like it is not moving toward a resolution, if things remain unsettled there, Obama can say "look, we need to move out, John McCain wants it to be more of the same. If it gets better, if violence continues to drop, if it looks like stability has arrived, then the war moves off the radar as an issue and Obama still wins."

This video does a good job of taking down Mitchell's and Packer's premise as well:



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Re: "Does Obama Have An Iraq Problem?" (none / 0)

It's stupidly amusing that the candidate who leads nationally, in most if not all big state polls, and is running close in states where Democrats have never even come close within memory can be portrayed in any way as the one with a problem.


by Beren on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 07:16:17 PM EST

Re: "Does Obama Have An Iraq Problem?" (none / 0)

Seriously, does McCain have any problems, according to the media?  


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by bosdcla14 on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 07:38:00 PM EST
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McCain had problems today (none / 0)

The MSM was all over McCain today because of his campaign shake up.


by puma on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 07:40:27 PM EST
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Today on CNN, (none / 0)

Axelrod talked about Obama sticking with his phased withdrawal plan.  I guess Obama sent to the Senate floor in September 2007 a strategic plan for this withdrawal.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com


by puma on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 07:26:30 PM EST

Happy Iraq (none / 0)

Iraq has stabilized? Into what? A balkanized country with continuous low-intensity warfare, no hope for a future, and a government more concerned about hiding the money its embezzling than bringing the country together?

Even while McCain pretends Iraq is the next South Korea, serious people need to stop pretending. How many more "emergency expenditures" totaling into the trillions are you going to spend on this war? You think T-bills are going to keep selling with an out of control debt? What about all the people who are dead, who are displaced, who are on the edge of survival? Can they all be swept under the celebrity journalist whitewash of American corporate media?

Of course they can. Ponies for everyone. See you at the PRESIDENT John McCain Press BBQ in the spring of 2009.  


by wengler on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 07:42:09 PM EST

Re: "Does Obama Have An Iraq Problem?" (none / 0)

George Packer is one of the most respected and knowledgeable writers about Iraq in the country. As ever most people here, it's not unique to conservatives, immediately view Packers comments through a domestic political prism. What Packer says is that Iraq has quietened down a bit, not much in reality, but it has calmed down a bit and Obama needs to recognize it. That's all. You guys are way too defensive.


by ottovbvs on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 08:02:14 PM EST

No (none / 0)

Packer suggests Obama should back off his promise for a phased withdrawal, which is a completely asinine idea.


by Hatch on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 12:05:47 AM EST
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What is "winning" the war (none / 0)

I was already told 4 years ago our mission was accomplished, so haven't we already won? And if we're winning now, when does it become a when (uh oh, can't have a timetable or a set of benchmarks to measure that either?)? And why when winning, do we need to keep troops there for what has already lasted longer than World War 2?


by Dog Chains on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 08:17:08 PM EST


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